Monday, August 17, 2009

for whom did Christ die?

Mike Bird puts the question and posts nice short responses from three different scholars:

Paul Helm holding the Calvinist View
Michael Jensen holding the Amyraldian View
Ben Witherington holding the Arminian View

Which view do you hold?
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  1. AnonymousAugust 17, 2009 at 10:31 AM

    Calvinist. Partly because it's sort of cool to say, "I'm a cranky Calvinist and a pernicious Presbyterian" and watch people back away.

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  2. Alistair BainAugust 17, 2009 at 12:51 PM

    I've used the Simeon quote myself that Jensen cites. I now have one from Ryle that I can trot out to my mad Systematiser friends.

    For a while now I've had a sinking feeling that Calvin is not as much of a Calvinist as some of his minions may like him to be. I think that's Jensen's subtle point. So to label the Paul Helm view as "Calvinist" is a potential misnomer. And I just don't like the way that Helm writes. So .... Calvinistic!! And as for the golden chain in Romans 8? Please!! Can we move on from ordo salutis nonsense.

    I recently heard John Woodbridge (Church historian from TEDS) call himself a "weak-kneed Calvinist." That's probably what I am. But not one who reads Paul Helm.

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  3. NathanAugust 17, 2009 at 5:34 PM

    I'll tell you after I'm approved as a candidate...

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  4. Simone R.August 17, 2009 at 5:41 PM

    I'm with MJ.

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