They are talking about church leadership models.
Or unemployed and trying to stay out of the rain. :-)I can also think of a few other options.
In my experience though, they mostly are.And I spend quite a bit of time listening in to coffee shop conversations.
Men don't like to chat and not be doing something (picking up boulders, mending aircraft etc) at the same time. Longingly staring across a cafe table is awky awky. Only us brave Christian males have the guts to give it a shot.ps but it's still awky.