tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post6482584049928257192..comments2023-07-18T19:52:35.156+10:00Comments on another something: So.Simone R.http://www.blogger.com/profile/05248239853519762027noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-65103024989088532012012-04-20T09:59:14.254+10:002012-04-20T09:59:14.254+10:00Hi Jo. Yes. I'm (somewhat) familiar with Corde...Hi Jo. Yes. I'm (somewhat) familiar with Cordelia Fine's book. I know she has big problems with Simon Baron-Cohen's work (which I've read quite a lot of - here - http://www.autismresearchcentre.com/) His is the male brain (systemising), Female brain (empathising) stuff. I'm okay with his work (sort of) if you remove the 'male' and 'female' tags from it - as a lot of people working in his lab have done - and just think about S-brain and E-brain preferences - since 45% of women don't have a 'female' brain, and 40(ish)% of men don't have a 'male' brain - as his own research concludes!<br /><br />I prefer this - http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/annececile.boulay/UE%20biblio/pdf/7.5.Schulte-Ruther.NeuroImage08.pdf - which seems a bit more solid.simone rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16626356778188873309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-53413031060053400782012-04-20T08:43:59.219+10:002012-04-20T08:43:59.219+10:00Andrew you're so lucky to have a mum who reads...Andrew you're so lucky to have a mum who reads your blog! <br /><br />Of course you're right, we do need dogmatic statements, but when someone makes a dogmatic statement we disagree with even partially, especially if they make it strongly from a position of authority, it can make us feel threatened and powerless and we respond by "oppositeness" (to quote something very clever I just read). Reporting on scientific research tends to disarm this by starting from concrete evidence and then reaching (usually very tentative) conclusions.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11272544252649766985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-88820204985331407672012-04-20T07:37:43.176+10:002012-04-20T07:37:43.176+10:00Simone, could you point us to some of your reading...Simone, could you point us to some of your reading on this? I'd be really interested in finding out a bit more. Cordelia Fine, at the University of Melbourne, has written a book called Delusions of Gender which critiques this field of neuroscience. You might find it interesting if you haven't come across it already.Joannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09657340578955726604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-89361986483742685102012-04-19T20:06:41.784+10:002012-04-19T20:06:41.784+10:00Perhaps Jon, but isn't some dogmatic statement...Perhaps Jon, but isn't some dogmatic statement of belief indispensable? Being a dogmatic statement of belief can't be disqualifying, or the forgiveness of sins and the resurrection of the dead might go with it. I can't see how to set aside all the verses as merely cultural and retain the ones I like. I guess it could be the difference between prescription (bible) and description, but I have a sense Simone resents the descriptions used to back the prescription more than the prescription itself. I assume only my mum reads my blog, but I had a go at this topic last time round: http://somefoolblog.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/like-opposite.html. I probably should have used 'counter-part' instead of 'like-opposite'Andrew Cruickshankhttp://somefoolblog.blogspot.com.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-81244956086181700022012-04-19T19:56:00.841+10:002012-04-19T19:56:00.841+10:00DIfferent writing style. Academic writing style is...DIfferent writing style. Academic writing style is non-biased, deliberately so.Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882558757262419263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-64135294027797628292012-04-19T16:51:51.764+10:002012-04-19T16:51:51.764+10:00Perhaps also a dogmatic statement of belief as opp...Perhaps also a dogmatic statement of belief as opposed to an open evidence based enquiry?Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11272544252649766985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-80518126360331098612012-04-19T09:53:35.736+10:002012-04-19T09:53:35.736+10:00Because its a two-sided account with a whole human...Because its a two-sided account with a whole humanity as the focus. (Mega)Pastors should be giving exactly as adequate and open an account, but they are time and talent constrained, and they tend to speak and think in sphere of -isms rather than reality. So in the rush to 'counter' 'feminism', the account of a whole humanity in the bible and realities of research is footnoted sketchily. I think the rush is probably the main problem. Waiting perplexed but not crushed should be OK. <br />Maybe.Andrew Cruickshankhttp://somefoolblog.blogspot.com.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-46442391907988887492012-04-18T21:02:48.933+10:002012-04-18T21:02:48.933+10:00Nah, it's women writing under pseudonyms :DNah, it's women writing under pseudonyms :DRodeoClownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14132852669233755447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-88356625938191059492012-04-18T20:56:40.167+10:002012-04-18T20:56:40.167+10:00Some of the academic papers are written by men.Some of the academic papers are written by men.Simone R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05248239853519762027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-2688282117163655752012-04-18T20:53:19.797+10:002012-04-18T20:53:19.797+10:00I think it's just because women's brains c...I think it's just because women's brains can't handle a guy saying there's a difference ;)RodeoClownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14132852669233755447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-61718005997232131822012-04-18T20:43:13.147+10:002012-04-18T20:43:13.147+10:00I guess because academic papers are usually balanc...I guess because academic papers are usually balanced, well researched and written, while most mega-church pastors seem to argue using bad rhetoric, dodgy research and don't care who they offend as long as it's their version of "biblical"...ChristianMarxistForteanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16957724492115135403noreply@blogger.com