tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post5604039042223789669..comments2023-07-18T19:52:35.156+10:00Comments on another something: LXX issuesSimone R.http://www.blogger.com/profile/05248239853519762027noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-43101942954483910772011-08-15T21:39:06.187+10:002011-08-15T21:39:06.187+10:00I'd put a smiley here if I believed in them. B...I'd put a smiley here if I believed in them. But I don't.simone rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16626356778188873309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-51080684353661696732011-08-15T21:06:59.511+10:002011-08-15T21:06:59.511+10:00No need to apologise - I was just stirring.
And ...No need to apologise - I was just stirring. <br /><br />And of course I had a sermon to write! But such things are best done after all possible stalling techniques are exhausted...<br /><br />I have procrastination issues, it's true.Anthony Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277745466192451883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-82960241655513150322011-08-15T20:42:01.190+10:002011-08-15T20:42:01.190+10:00Sorry re. Sat night! Didn't mean to mislead.
...Sorry re. Sat night! Didn't mean to mislead.<br /><br />But why were you reading on Saturday night anyway? Didn't you have a sermon to finish or something?simone rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16626356778188873309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-79941679705549017582011-08-15T14:28:06.712+10:002011-08-15T14:28:06.712+10:00Not just organised, but sly...posting an appeal fo...Not just organised, but sly...posting an appeal for help on a Saturday night...damsel in distress, please help...<br /><br />:PAnthony Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277745466192451883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-41826444232829836052011-08-14T15:25:01.658+10:002011-08-14T15:25:01.658+10:00It's not till next year! How organised am I?!It's not till next year! How organised am I?!simone rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16626356778188873309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-69963063030850132132011-08-14T14:12:15.489+10:002011-08-14T14:12:15.489+10:00That would be why you're a SS teacher and I...That would be why you're a SS teacher and I'm not:). Hope it went well.Jonhttp://paintingfakes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-82145379723328658652011-08-14T08:25:47.886+10:002011-08-14T08:25:47.886+10:00I'm with JeffK - the Jews who wanted to stone ...I'm with JeffK - the Jews who wanted to stone him would have understood exactly what he was claiming. As for exactly which version of the word he used, think about how you use English - there are many, many synonyms as well as turns of phrase that mean exactly the same thing (half the time the different words are just from different source languages e.g. Latin vs Greek).Laetitia :-)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08239718954326223338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-53502394511004958812011-08-14T08:08:18.273+10:002011-08-14T08:08:18.273+10:00And Jon, the I Am statements aren't that hard ...And Jon, the I Am statements aren't that hard to teach kids. There's a cool story attached to most of them - feeding 5000, Lazarus, Healing blind man etc.simone rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16626356778188873309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-15407240271859989572011-08-13T21:14:16.850+10:002011-08-13T21:14:16.850+10:00Brilliant. I'm doing it.Brilliant. I'm doing it.simone rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16626356778188873309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-29174259344549786202011-08-13T21:11:52.913+10:002011-08-13T21:11:52.913+10:00As 'luck' would have it, I just looked at ...As 'luck' would have it, I just looked at our second reading for tomorrow - Mk 12, where Jesus doesn't just refer to Ex. 3, he cites it!<br /><br />Except that his citation uses ego (no eimi, understood), and the LXX uses ego eimi. He doesn't quote it word for word. <br /><br />But, if Carson's right and Jesus is part of the LXX cheer squad, then he'd know the ego eimi reference from Ex 3:6, defeating the argument. QED.Anthony Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277745466192451883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-23805908635780657812011-08-13T20:52:06.809+10:002011-08-13T20:52:06.809+10:00I'm with them. I reckon the Jews who want to ...I'm with them. I reckon the Jews who want to stone him aren't quibbling about what reference he's citing.JeffKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499968491483382380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-75398076927492977742011-08-13T20:49:04.660+10:002011-08-13T20:49:04.660+10:00The "I am" statements are pretty heavy s...The "I am" statements are pretty heavy stuff for Sunday School. Carson's argument seems plausible if very technical. Jesus and his disciples are generally agreed to have spoken Aramaic which is more akin to Hebrew than Greek, so there may not be any reason to assume they used the LXX. The Dead Sea Scrolls OT manuscripts, roughly contemporary with Jesus, are in Hebrew. As the NT writers used Greek for wider circulation they naturally referred to the LXX for OT references.Jonhttp://paintingfakes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-66413722487941723672011-08-13T20:46:03.827+10:002011-08-13T20:46:03.827+10:00Do it.Do it.Alistair Bainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15099359104986717330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-59280077742817283512011-08-13T20:43:39.158+10:002011-08-13T20:43:39.158+10:00I was under the distinct impression that Jesus spo...I was under the distinct impression that Jesus spoke Aramaic. I'd think it unlikely that his go-to version of the Scriptures would therefore be in Greek rather than Hebrew. <br /><br />That's leaving aside the whole omniscience thing. <br /><br />And then, of course, there's the fact that you don't have to cite something word for word to allude to it. <br /><br />Just looked in my Pillar copy of Carson on John, and while he makes the link to Isaiah there, he didn't have the LXX argument. Not sure what your source is, but maybe he's decided it wasn't that strong?<br /><br />FWIW, I think you should feel free to point out the Exodus link. I rather suspect Isaiah was thinking of it when he penned chapter 40 too.Anthony Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277745466192451883noreply@blogger.com