tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post4606683884768767915..comments2023-07-18T19:52:35.156+10:00Comments on another something: Jesus our ransomSimone R.http://www.blogger.com/profile/05248239853519762027noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-12137789896090352010-08-08T13:59:12.007+10:002010-08-08T13:59:12.007+10:00Hi (it's the ukulele player again). I seems to...Hi (it's the ukulele player again). I seems to me that the story, whatever it is, needs to stay with the principle that God is the innocent offended party, who personally takes action to rescue those who have offended him deeply. After all, death is the penalty that he and no one else prescribed for the offenders. It is also he and no one else who acted as our redeeming substitute (paid the penalty). It's like the king in Matthew 18 (or thereabouts) who was owed, and suffered great loss to set the debtors free. Dont know if this helps you at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-44269812393125552292010-08-08T12:46:34.303+10:002010-08-08T12:46:34.303+10:00Hey Simone, sorry about my misunderstanding!
I ...Hey Simone, sorry about my misunderstanding! <br /><br />I was referring just specifically to your statement about not liking too many parallels with the teaching point. I didn't quite get what you meant by that. The thing is, I hadn't read your post properly, I missed a whole section out. Having re-read and understood it properly, I now can see exactly what you mean.<br /><br />Looking forward to teaching it to the kids soon!Kutzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993685410486388532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-47347444541665254262010-08-06T17:14:11.264+10:002010-08-06T17:14:11.264+10:00Don't think I'm reacting to anything. The ...Don't think I'm reacting to anything. The idea started from Tim Chester's book 'The Ordinary Hero' which is about living life following the example of Jesus on the cross. It morphed a bit from there, some concepts were too tricky to do with kids in four weeks. We needed a topical unit on godly living. I think the angle of following Jesus, valuing the things he valued, is as good as any (though in no way the only way it could have been done.)Simone R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05248239853519762027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-70815525130220233152010-08-06T16:34:55.388+10:002010-08-06T16:34:55.388+10:00I've yet to understand what you're reactin...I've yet to understand what you're reacting to as you go about putting together this unit Simone. It's certainly an interesting mix of stuff!<br /><br />There are plenty of ways you could do it where it would be unhelpful, and some where it may help. Just an idea for you. I'm not so much an inside part of planning this as standing on the outside throwing in thoughts, practically speaking, so I'll happily trust you to do a top job with whatever ends up in the pot.Kutzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993685410486388532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-23604030906334386432010-08-06T16:02:36.556+10:002010-08-06T16:02:36.556+10:00Kutz - I dislike dramas that have too many paralle...Kutz - I dislike dramas that have too many parallels with the teaching point. The allegorical thing makes me a little nauseous. But I'll think on it.Simone R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05248239853519762027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-76755128320235965182010-08-06T11:45:20.504+10:002010-08-06T11:45:20.504+10:00Agreed Anthony, ransom is the fun but difficult im...Agreed Anthony, ransom is the fun but difficult image for teaching kids. Great idea for a way of doing it without having ransom paid to death or the devil. Good stuff.<br /><br />@Simone: Depending on the angle you want to take, it could be interesting if the gang leader paid the fine.<br /><br />Also, I have an interesting real life story about chaining my bike to a friend's bike at uni one day. It turned out the bike wasn't actually my friend's. Long story that resulted in a police chase. Amazing day.Kutzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993685410486388532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-73140427373013606922010-08-06T06:43:47.046+10:002010-08-06T06:43:47.046+10:00I'll give it a go.I'll give it a go.Simone R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05248239853519762027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-3979790691133192302010-08-06T00:13:51.935+10:002010-08-06T00:13:51.935+10:00Yeah, the trouble is, God never seems to pay the r...Yeah, the trouble is, God never seems to pay the ransom to anyone. From the point of view of your drama/talk, this is a bummer. From the point of view of keeping him sovereign, I think Mark would call this a Very Good Idea. <br /><br />Can it be fixed? Tough one. I'll have a go.<br /><br />The postman delivers, not a ransom note, but a letter from the council/RTA/whatever saying the bike was parked illegally and has been impounded. Biff has to pay to get his bike back from where it isn't meant to be. <br /><br />God's ransom-paying then becomes about getting us back from where we're not meant to be (ie apart from him). <br /><br />I think - and it may be just me - that the big grey anonymous entity that ends up getting the fine attracts less attention, and you can focus more on how the bike belongs with Biff. I guess the trick is to minimise all interest in the third party in the drama, so that there need be no third party in the talk at all.<br /><br />Sure, it means the word ransom isn't so obvious. But can you just use your own translation? Or explain it with a more helpful gloss?<br /><br />Ransom notes are very exciting, and letters with windows are anything but. This may reduce the dramatic tension somewhat...;-)Anthony Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277745466192451883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-911707550436621468.post-4058554429807828032010-08-05T23:04:26.375+10:002010-08-05T23:04:26.375+10:00The problem with the letter is that it sounds like...The problem with the letter is that it sounds like someone apart from God is calling the shots. Can it be fixed or should I try to find a new idea?Simone R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05248239853519762027noreply@blogger.com